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		<title>By: Giant Claw Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/archives/2004/another-lying-liar-and-the-lying-liars-who-help-them-lie/#comment-218169</link>
		<dc:creator>Giant Claw Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course liberals are lying just listen to them on the news shows and you can hear first hand their lies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course liberals are lying just listen to them on the news shows and you can hear first hand their lies</p>
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		<title>By: Flu-Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/archives/2004/another-lying-liar-and-the-lying-liars-who-help-them-lie/#comment-184919</link>
		<dc:creator>Flu-Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dirty lying liberals just think when one of those collage intellecuials MICHEAL BELLSILIES wrote a book ARMING AMERICA which he claimed guns were never a factor in early america and of course liberal mush heads snapped it up the usial suspects were gushing their praises for his book he was given a BANCROFT prize abd received big time rraises from the usial jerks in the liberal birdcage liners but after a year it was found out he had fabricated the whole thing the book was a lie and his data was fruadulent(the dog ate his homework)he was forced to return the bancroft prize and the money that went with it and was also forced to resign from EMMORY UNIVERSITY Frankly i hope he ends up selling pencils on the street and lives in a cardboard box he deserves this for his dirty liberal lies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirty lying liberals just think when one of those collage intellecuials MICHEAL BELLSILIES wrote a book ARMING AMERICA which he claimed guns were never a factor in early america and of course liberal mush heads snapped it up the usial suspects were gushing their praises for his book he was given a BANCROFT prize abd received big time rraises from the usial jerks in the liberal birdcage liners but after a year it was found out he had fabricated the whole thing the book was a lie and his data was fruadulent(the dog ate his homework)he was forced to return the bancroft prize and the money that went with it and was also forced to resign from EMMORY UNIVERSITY Frankly i hope he ends up selling pencils on the street and lives in a cardboard box he deserves this for his dirty liberal lies</p>
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		<title>By: nutslikebush</title>
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		<dc:creator>nutslikebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buff,
You just did a straight cut and paste from a hokey blog that doesn&#039;t fact check but is just trying to sell its spin on the story.  I googled your content and it was all over the wingnut blogs.  But thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buff,<br />
You just did a straight cut and paste from a hokey blog that doesn&#8217;t fact check but is just trying to sell its spin on the story.  I googled your content and it was all over the wingnut blogs.  But thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: nutslikebush</title>
		<link>http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/archives/2004/another-lying-liar-and-the-lying-liars-who-help-them-lie/#comment-139826</link>
		<dc:creator>nutslikebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they lied under oath it is wrong to not prosecute them for it.  I hope the government pursues the case. It will also be interesting to see what other lies have been perpetrated about this case, don&#039;t cha think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they lied under oath it is wrong to not prosecute them for it.  I hope the government pursues the case. It will also be interesting to see what other lies have been perpetrated about this case, don&#8217;t cha think?</p>
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		<title>By: nutslikebush</title>
		<link>http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/archives/2004/another-lying-liar-and-the-lying-liars-who-help-them-lie/#comment-139824</link>
		<dc:creator>nutslikebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buff,
The Wilsons will certainly spend many years in prison then, won&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buff,<br />
The Wilsons will certainly spend many years in prison then, won&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: buff</title>
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		<dc:creator>buff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most stunning revelations contained in the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA is that virtually everything Joseph Wilson has said about his trip to Niger, and the report that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger, is a lie.

First, contrary to what Wilson has said publicly, his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, did recommend him for the Niger investigation:

    The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame &quot;offered up&quot; Wilson&#039;s name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA&#039;s Directorate of Operations saying her husband &quot;has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.&quot; The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.

Confronted with the Senate report, Wilson could only offer a non sequitur and a lame denial:

    Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: &quot;I don&#039;t see it as a recommendation to send me.&quot;

Further, the Senate report indicates that Plame and Wilson, from the beginning, had an absurdly biased view of the subject Wilson was supposed to be investigating: &quot;The report said Plame told committee staffers that she relayed the CIA&#039;s request to her husband, saying, &#039;there&#039;s this crazy report&#039; about a purported deal for Niger to sell uranium to Iraq.&quot;

As has been widely reported, Wilson conducted a half-baked investigation into the uranium report. But here is the most astonishing fact uncovered by the Senate Intelligence Committee: in his book and in countless interviews and op-ed pieces over the past year, Wilson has been lying about the contents of his own report to the CIA!:

    The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because &quot;the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.&quot;

    &quot;Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the &#039;dates were wrong and the names were wrong&#039; when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports,&quot; the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have &quot;misspoken&quot; to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.

    Wilson&#039;s reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.

    Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss &quot;expanding commercial relations&quot; between Niger and Iraq -- which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that &quot;although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq.&quot;

    According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1999.

So: what Wilson actually told the CIA, contrary to his own oft-repeated claims, is that he was told by the former mining minister of Niger that in 1999, Iraq had tried to buy uranium from that country, and that Iraq&#039;s overture was renewed the following year. What Wilson reported to the CIA was exactly the same as what President Bush said in his 2003 State of the Union address: there was evidence that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa.

Recall Wilson&#039;s famous op-ed in the New York Times, published on July 6, 2003, which ignited the whole firestorm over the famous &quot;sixteen words&quot; in Bush&#039;s State of the Union speech. In that op-ed, Wilson identified himself as the formerly-unnamed person who had gone to Niger to investigate rumors of a possible uranium deal between Iraq and Niger. Here are the key words in Wilson&#039;s article:

    [I]n January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa. The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them.

It was this flat-out lie about what Wilson learned in Niger, and what he reported to the CIA upon his return, that fueled the &quot;sixteen words&quot; controversy and led to the publication of Wilson&#039;s best-selling account, titled, ironically, The Politics of Truth.

One can only conclude that Joseph Wilson has perpetrated one of the most astonishing hoaxes in American history. But here is what I really don&#039;t get: didn&#039;t the administration have access to all of this information about Wilson&#039;s report? And if so, why didn&#039;t they use it when Wilson was dominating the news cycle with his lies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most stunning revelations contained in the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA is that virtually everything Joseph Wilson has said about his trip to Niger, and the report that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger, is a lie.</p>
<p>First, contrary to what Wilson has said publicly, his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, did recommend him for the Niger investigation:</p>
<p>    The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame &#8220;offered up&#8221; Wilson&#8217;s name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA&#8217;s Directorate of Operations saying her husband &#8220;has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.&#8221; The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.</p>
<p>Confronted with the Senate report, Wilson could only offer a non sequitur and a lame denial:</p>
<p>    Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t see it as a recommendation to send me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, the Senate report indicates that Plame and Wilson, from the beginning, had an absurdly biased view of the subject Wilson was supposed to be investigating: &#8220;The report said Plame told committee staffers that she relayed the CIA&#8217;s request to her husband, saying, &#8216;there&#8217;s this crazy report&#8217; about a purported deal for Niger to sell uranium to Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>As has been widely reported, Wilson conducted a half-baked investigation into the uranium report. But here is the most astonishing fact uncovered by the Senate Intelligence Committee: in his book and in countless interviews and op-ed pieces over the past year, Wilson has been lying about the contents of his own report to the CIA!:</p>
<p>    The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because &#8220;the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8220;Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the &#8216;dates were wrong and the names were wrong&#8217; when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports,&#8221; the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have &#8220;misspoken&#8221; to reporters. The documents &#8212; purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq &#8212; were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.</p>
<p>    Wilson&#8217;s reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.</p>
<p>    Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss &#8220;expanding commercial relations&#8221; between Niger and Iraq &#8212; which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that &#8220;although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>    According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1999.</p>
<p>So: what Wilson actually told the CIA, contrary to his own oft-repeated claims, is that he was told by the former mining minister of Niger that in 1999, Iraq had tried to buy uranium from that country, and that Iraq&#8217;s overture was renewed the following year. What Wilson reported to the CIA was exactly the same as what President Bush said in his 2003 State of the Union address: there was evidence that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa.</p>
<p>Recall Wilson&#8217;s famous op-ed in the New York Times, published on July 6, 2003, which ignited the whole firestorm over the famous &#8220;sixteen words&#8221; in Bush&#8217;s State of the Union speech. In that op-ed, Wilson identified himself as the formerly-unnamed person who had gone to Niger to investigate rumors of a possible uranium deal between Iraq and Niger. Here are the key words in Wilson&#8217;s article:</p>
<p>    [I]n January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa. The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them.</p>
<p>It was this flat-out lie about what Wilson learned in Niger, and what he reported to the CIA upon his return, that fueled the &#8220;sixteen words&#8221; controversy and led to the publication of Wilson&#8217;s best-selling account, titled, ironically, The Politics of Truth.</p>
<p>One can only conclude that Joseph Wilson has perpetrated one of the most astonishing hoaxes in American history. But here is what I really don&#8217;t get: didn&#8217;t the administration have access to all of this information about Wilson&#8217;s report? And if so, why didn&#8217;t they use it when Wilson was dominating the news cycle with his lies?</p>
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		<title>By: nutslikebush</title>
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		<dc:creator>nutslikebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of doubt it that there are any liberals in the CIA at all.  And do you remember how Wilson stood Saddam down during Gulf War 1?  Saddam threatened to take the US Embassy personnel hostage.  Wilson was in charge of the Baghdad embassy at the time and personally took on Saddam even though it could have meant his death.  But he saved 100s of US citizens in who sought asylum at the embassy.  He is a hero and you conservatives treated him like crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of doubt it that there are any liberals in the CIA at all.  And do you remember how Wilson stood Saddam down during Gulf War 1?  Saddam threatened to take the US Embassy personnel hostage.  Wilson was in charge of the Baghdad embassy at the time and personally took on Saddam even though it could have meant his death.  But he saved 100s of US citizens in who sought asylum at the embassy.  He is a hero and you conservatives treated him like crap.</p>
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		<title>By: nutslikebush</title>
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		<dc:creator>nutslikebush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Actually Joe Wilson did not lie about Cheney sending him.  The request to the CIA to investigate the Niger Yellow Cake RUMOR was issued by Cheney&#039;s office.  You are just wrong about that.  Why would the CIA send Wilson to attack Bush?  Are you saying that the CIA was at war with the Bush administration?  Wilson was not a liberal.  He was just setting the record straight.  You guys think everyone you disagree with is a LIBERAL.  Guess what, you have no friends any more because your type has made enemies of everyone except your little tiny clan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Actually Joe Wilson did not lie about Cheney sending him.  The request to the CIA to investigate the Niger Yellow Cake RUMOR was issued by Cheney&#8217;s office.  You are just wrong about that.  Why would the CIA send Wilson to attack Bush?  Are you saying that the CIA was at war with the Bush administration?  Wilson was not a liberal.  He was just setting the record straight.  You guys think everyone you disagree with is a LIBERAL.  Guess what, you have no friends any more because your type has made enemies of everyone except your little tiny clan.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to the liberal web sites and see if they allow any conservative comment.  They Do NOT!  Here they do...no matter how biased.
Joe Wilson lied about Chaney sending him. Mrs Wilson sent her husband to attack the Bush adm. Wilson asked the leaders of the African nation if the Iraqs&#039; that had been there were looking to buy yellow-cake.  He took them at their word even though there is no other reason for them to be there...no oil trades...no products to trade etc.  Liberals lie or discredit they never debate the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to the liberal web sites and see if they allow any conservative comment.  They Do NOT!  Here they do&#8230;no matter how biased.<br />
Joe Wilson lied about Chaney sending him. Mrs Wilson sent her husband to attack the Bush adm. Wilson asked the leaders of the African nation if the Iraqs&#8217; that had been there were looking to buy yellow-cake.  He took them at their word even though there is no other reason for them to be there&#8230;no oil trades&#8230;no products to trade etc.  Liberals lie or discredit they never debate the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: British_Nationalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>British_Nationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to comment on some of the hypocrisy shown by some on this site. For example, in the post above SmokinMirror proceeds to launch an outrageously biased, bigoted, mindless assault, based on completely unfounded claims, on liberals in general, then has the temerity to call them belligerent morons. I don&#039;t mind preaching as such, but at least have the decency to practise what you preach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to comment on some of the hypocrisy shown by some on this site. For example, in the post above SmokinMirror proceeds to launch an outrageously biased, bigoted, mindless assault, based on completely unfounded claims, on liberals in general, then has the temerity to call them belligerent morons. I don&#8217;t mind preaching as such, but at least have the decency to practise what you preach.</p>
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